New CRAMBA Website
The CRAMBA board are proud to introduce the new cramba.org website! With simplified and improved navigation, updated content, and some new pages, we hope it will be a valuable resource for our community.
Refreshed look and feel
Using the CRAMBA blue our members already know and love, we’ve created a simpler and more modern design. With simplified navigation and better discoverability, it will be easier than ever for our members to use the website to discover group rides, learn about trail days and other volunteer opportunities, and find local mountain biking events.
New events page
Use the new events page to find out about local races, CRAMBA events, trail days, and more! Events do not need to be CRAMBA official events and we’re happy to highlight events in the area that promote mountain biking and support our local trails. If you would like your event listed on the events page, email board@cramba.org.
Updated trails pages
With updated and corrected content, images from our local riders, and an improved look and feel, we hope the new trail pages will be a valuable resource for our members. If you have a correction, idea, feedback, or images to share on the website, please email us at board@cramba.org.
More coming soon
Stay tuned as we update the new website with news, group rides, events, trail days, volunteer opportunities, and more! If you have an idea, correction, or just want to leave your feedback, we would love to hear from you at board@cramba.org.
April Update!
Please join in the Cramba Trail Challenge taking place now until June 25.
CRAMBA Trail Challenge!!! Registration is now open: https://www.bikereg.com/cramba-trail-challenge Cost is $30 to cover the shirt, celebration at the end (6/25 @ Oakdale Lapeer) and help support our local trails. Please follow our Facebook page as we post more about group rides and other activities around this event. Get out there and ride! Our Facebook page to follow: https://www.facebook.com/Cramba-Trail-Challenge-108352268514621
Join the Strava club as well: https://www.strava.com/clubs/1041990
SAVE THE DATE:
June 25 - Cramba Trail Challenge celebration @ Oakdale Trail system in Lapeer
June Cramba Chapter Meeting - TBD
September 10 - Addison Oaks XC race
September 24 - Beaver Dash Bash @ Oakdale Trail system in Lapeer
October 1 - Howl at the Moon @ Stony Creek Metropark
October 8 - Massive Fall Out
February 2022 Board Meeting minutes
CRAMBA’s February, 2022 Board Meeting was held on Thursday, February 10th 2022 at 8 PM virtually. The meeting was called to order by Wade Robbins. Also in attendance: Marc Padin, Brian LaVoi, Michael Roman, Fran DiPietro, John Knight, Vito Manzella, Ed Olson, Roger Class, Josh McCreedy, Steven Trecapelli, and John Garland. Minutes recorded by John Garland.
Bike Patrol: 11 patrollers present at Ay Cramba festival. Awards banquet will happen this spring.
Membership: 46 people renewed/joined Cramba at Ay Cramba festival.
New Board Members: Steven Trecapelli. Cramba now has a full 12 person board.
Trails:
Bald Mountain is working on connection from North unit to Addison Oaks. Looking to complete theIr side by the end of March. Addison Oaks will need park manager approval of plans for their side still.
River Bends is still working on phase 2 of the Far side trail project and will complete more work in the spring. The new loop is about 4000ft. There will be a call to help with wood features and maybe metal fabricators in the future to complete the trail segment.
Stony Creek – Stony is reporting almost triple the amount of annual passes in 2021 from previous year, largely due to Shelden trails project.
Insurance: Renewed with same carrier as last year. This is our largest annual operating cost.
Events: Cramba has discussed many events for 2022. We are appointing a lead for each event and will be looking for members to help. Discussed was a trail head membership drive, Spring gravel event, Trail challenge (completing all Cramba trails in a timeframe), Take a Kid Mountain Biking Day, Massive Fall Out, supporting Oakdale/Lapeer's Beaver Dash in September, and the Addison Oaks fall classic. If you are interested in helping with an event, please contact us at board@cramba.org
January 2022 Board Meeting minutes
CRAMBA’s January, 2022 Board Meeting was held on Thursday, January 13th 2022 at 8 PM virtually.
Meeting was called to order by Wade Robbins. Also in attendance: Brian McPherson, Marc Padin, Brian LaVoi, John Knight, Vito Manzella, Steve Vigneau, Jeremy Verbeke, Ed Olson, John Osgood, Peter McCreedy, Scott Waraniak, Kevin Gorman, and John Garland. Minutes recorded by John Garland.
¡Ay Cramba! It’s Cold Outside – Fat Bike Festival will be held February 5, 2022 (Backup date is February 19) from Noon-5 PM. Potluck style event, Bonfire, Membership renewal, demo bikes and more.
Bike Patrol requested budget for awards/appreciation dinner and IMBA dues for members of Bike Patrol who completed requirements. Motion passed.
Membership drive proposed as membership waned during pandemic.
New Board Members: Scott Waraniak and Ed Olson
Trails
There is a potential for a new trail in Imlay City. Further details will be available as the project moves forward.
Bald Mountain is working with State to connect South Unit to Paint Creek Trail. The connection from North unit to Addison Oaks has been approved but will need Addison Oaks approval next.
Oakdale Trails will be updating signage, kiosk, and possible changing and tool stations. Oakdale also purchased a groomer and will have a snow route.
River Bends is still working on phase 2 of the Far side trail project and will complete more work in the spring.
Stony Creek – Working on official map updates from Metroparks.
Woodsong County Park is about 90% done with about 3.5 miles of trail. Signage will be part of the next phase of work. Open year round and a 2-mile loop will be snowshoed for winter riding.
¡Ay, Cramba! It's Cold Outside - Fat Bike Festival
Join us February 5, 2022 at River Bends Park in Shelby Township for a celebration of Fat Bikes. Noon-5PM. Potluck style event, bonfires, KLM will be on hand to raffle a pair of Fat-bike studded tires and match Cramba membership renewals/join fee. ($20).
Phase 2 of the Far Side Trail Project at River Bends
And we are back!
There has not been much going on with the project most of the summer as we were out enjoying the trails as we hope you have been too. But we are excited to say that Phase 2 is underway!
This morning TrailSense provided a walk thru with CRAMBA and the Twp which closely follows the proposed Phase 2 work. This trail is expected to be ~1 Mile in addition to the Spring Hill trail. This will be a stacked loop, so that means the existing trailhead and exit will be used, so this will split off then rejoin the Spring Hill trail.
The first shovel (bucket) hit the ground and Josh is already moving dirt. It is expected to be under construction for 30-45 days.
We will need volunteers to help with this phase. CRAMBA is looking for some trail finishing work (clean up and final shaping and grading by hand tools) and projecting to build 3-4 wooden features. If you are interested in volunteering please fill out the form at the link here - https://forms.gle/WrUoaGn1P2cb69ij8
We will provide updates as they happen.
As always this is 100% user/donor-funded. Please consider making a donation at https://donorbox.org/river-bends-farside-trail
Chapter Meeting – Tuesday, October 19th
Join us for our group ride and Chapter Meeting Tuesday, October 19th at River Bends! This meeting is open to all members and non-members.
We are also looking for new members to join our Board. Basic requirements for being on the board are attending a monthly meeting, being a current CRAMBA member, and participating in discussions via email. Your involvement outside of that is up to you.
We are looking for individuals that want to get actively involved, are passionate about mountain biking, with a focus on enhancing the biking community, promoting and maintaining mountain biking trail access, and guiding responsible mountain biking. We want you to step up and help guide the Chapter and the future of mountain biking in our area. Please consider joining the CRAMBA Board if this is you!
A second option if you want to become involved, but do not have time to sit on the Board, is joining one of our committees. We will have sign up sheets at the meeting for the following committees: Communications, Membership, and Events.
Event Details:
Where: 22 Mile entrance pavilion, River Bends
When: Group ride starts at 6pm sharp
Meeting will start at 7:00pm
Note that food will not be provided at this meeting, but you are welcome to bring your own
Email the existing CRAMBA Board if you have any questions at board@cramba.org. We look forward to seeing you there!
Addison Oaks Race Cancellation
CRAMBA has decided to officially cancel the Addison Oaks race for this year. Because of all of the rescheduled events from the springtime, we have been unable to secure a timing company for the event. Due to the importance of accurate timing for a series race, we decided against attempting to do it ourselves. We are already working on things for next year. Next year’s race will be held on Saturday September 10th, 2022.
The good news is we have more time/energy to focus on our Massive Fallout event. We’ve pushed it back to October 16th this year. Yes, this is much later than we usually hold it, but there were other conflicting events for other weekends and decided this would be our best option before it starts getting to be too late in the season. If anyone is interested in assisting with the MFO event, running an aid station, placing signage, etc, please let us know!
Chapter Meeting – Wednesday, July 28th
Join us for our group ride and Chapter Meeting Wednesday, July 28th at Stony Creek! This meeting is open to all members and non-members.
We are also looking for new members to join our Board. Basic requirements for being on the board are attending a monthly meeting, being a current CRAMBA member, and participating in discussions via email. Your involvement outside of that is up to you.
We are looking for individuals that want to get actively involved, are passionate about mountain biking, with a focus on enhancing the biking community, promoting and maintaining mountain biking trail access, and guiding responsible mountain biking. We want you to step up and help guide the Chapter and the future of mountain biking in our area. Please consider joining the CRAMBA Board if this is you!
A second option if you want to become involved, but do not have time to sit on the Board, is joining one of our committees. We will have sign up sheets at the meeting for the following committees: Communications, Membership, and Events.
Event Details:
Where: West Branch West Picnic Shelter, Stony Creek
When: Group ride starts at 6pm sharp
Meeting will start at 7:00pm
Burgers and hot dogs will be provided, but please bring your own after ride “refreshments” if you desire
Email the existing CRAMBA Board if you have any questions at board@cramba.org. We look forward to seeing you there!
May 2021 Board Meeting Minutes
CRAMBA’s March 2021 Board Meeting was held on Thursday, May 13th 2021 at 7:20pm at River Bends.
Meeting was called to order with Brian McPherson. In attendance also Michael Green, Marc Padin, Wade Robbins, John Knight, Michael Benigni, Jeremy Verbeke, and Chris Westerlund. Minutes recorded by Rebecca Padin.
Board Items:
- With updated CDC recommendations, group rides will be scheduled to start up again:
- Tuesdays at River Bends
- Wednesdays at Stony Creek
River Bends
“Far Side Trail Project”/flow trail
- Phase 1 completed – dubbed Spring Hill Trail
- Donor Preview Day – 5/14
- Opening Day BBQ – 5/23
- Steampunk Tap Room in Utica hosting a fundraiser on 6/12
- Sponsors: Griffin Claw, Uncle Peter’s Pasties, and Paramount Electric
- KLM hosting a raffle, tickets available for purchase at either location, proceeds to go to CRAMBA
Pump track
- American Ramp Company – 3D design and quote received
- Pursuit of fundraising opportunities continues, considering sponsorship from businesses, possibly feature their logo on signage near the sites
April 2021 Board Meeting Minutes
CRAMBA’s April 2021 Board Meeting was held on Thursday, April 8th 2021 at 7:00pm via Zoom.
Meeting was called to order with Brian McPherson. In attendance also Wade Robbins, John Knight, Pete McCreedy, and Ken Markiewicz. Minutes recorded by Rebecca Padin.
Board Items:
River Bends
“Far Side Trail Project”/flow trail
- Construction broke ground on 4/1
- Fund raising in progress via DonorBox, but enough funding has been received to begin construction.
- KLM hosting a raffle, tickets available for purchase at either location, proceeds to go to CRAMBA
- Preview event for donors and official Opening Day event to be held
Pump track
- American Ramp Company – initial spec received, additional photos being provided to help finalize designs
- Pursuit of fundraising opportunities and applying for grants continues, considering sponsorship from businesses.
Bald Mountain
- DNR looking into connecting with the Lake Orion high school trail system (original trails were encroaching on DNR property and were rerouted)
- DNR pursuing master plan for connector trails – CRAMBA pledges up to $3,000 to the connector trails
Pontiac Lake
- Grant received from Panasonic to build a changing station, Wade reached out to the PLRA Trail Coordinator regarding construction
Spring Hill Trail at River Bends Grand Opening May 23rd
Grand Opening Event, May 23rd, 2021
On behalf of CRAMBA, its Board of Directors, and our members we would like to express our gratitude for those that have donated to the Far Side Trail Project at River Bends Park. Thank you!
This project is completely user funded and with your help, to date, we have raised over $22,000 towards the goal of $80,000. The first of three new trails, Spring Hill Trail, has just completed professional construction by Trailsense LLC of Holly, Michigan. The Spring Hill Trail comes in at just under 1 mile and has 10+ constructed features including, banked turns, rollers, doubles, tabletops, lips, single and waterfall drops. This intermediate-level trail has been constructed to be a progressive and skills-building trail where all features may optionally be rolled or safely bypassed.
Please join us on Sunday, May 23rd, 2021 11 am - 3 pm at the Spring Hill Trail for the Grand Opening Event. This trail is located off of the Ryan Rd. entrance of River Bends Park, starting at the Patriot Field parking lot. (See the map below.) We will have the CRAMBA tent at the start of the new trail and will have maps printed highlighting the trail. Come on out, be one of the first to ride, and let’s talk and celebrate the new trail and what is planned for the next two phases
KLM Bike & Fitness, who is hosting a raffle to raise funds for the Far Side Trail Project, will be on-site with raffle tickets available. Tickets for $10 each or 5 for $40 for a chance to win a $6,000 gift card to their bike shop.
There will also be a fundraising event at SteamPunk Tap Room on June 12, 2021, starting at 1 pm. This Fundraiser is to help fund the next phase of construction of the new Far Side Trail at River Bends Park. Great tap list of Griffin Claw Brewing Company (GCBC) beers and Matthew Ashley of Uncle Peter's Pastie Shelby will be serving some fantastic food. Most importantly, Steampunk AND Paramount Electric will each match donations made during the event dollar for dollar up to $1000 (still looking for additional sponsors to match!) Your $1 donation now becomes $3! Reps from local bike shops, including Fraser Bicycle, will be at the event and supporting this cause, as well! This is a great opportunity to multiply your donation while enjoying great beer, food, and company!
A Letter from your Chair
CRAMBA Members,There has been some consternation and confusion about the updates being done to existing trail areas at Stony Creek.CRAMBA has gotten a lot of requests for trails that are more difficult, have more variety, and to have areas where you can jump your bike and get air. This desire was reflected in the survey that we had requested our Membership complete prior to the work beginning at Stony Creek. Of the trail systems in our area, Stony Creek's rolling elevation and terrain is rather unique and best suited to these additions. It is also one of the oldest single track trail systems that was developed long before modern mountain biking suspension systems and modern trail design. One of the biggest complaints from new riders is that Stony Creek was easy to get lost in due to the spider-web mostly linear design of the existing trails. People that have been riding there for many years tend to forget how they felt about that on their first rides, especially if they went out alone. Once completed, the entire trail system will consist of a series of connected loops, making it much easier to return to the trailhead.It has been suggested to me that the D loop, in it's currently unfinished and unsigned state, is dangerous for new riders. Having ridden it, I understand your feelings with this assertion, but there are caveats. It is not currently completed, nor designated as “open”. There is a plan for signage that has not been implemented. Generally the most difficult trail is placed as far back into a trail system as possible. I believe that is a goal that was accomplished here.These new trails are all safe when ridden appropriately, no different than any other trail I have ever ridden. If you are unsure about any obstacle, you should take care to look things over before you ride them hard. The long sight lines on the D loop make this relatively easy to do without needing to stop unexpectedly. These features do take an element of skill in order to be optimally enjoyed. The D loop makes much better use of the reversing grades and elevation changes of that section of the park than the Back Nine did. It also now has a lot of jumping features and drops that do not exist elsewhere on any of the sanctioned CRAMBA trails. It's now a full loop of singletrack that ends approximately where it starts, avoiding the need to use the dull two track trails to return to the start.Newer riders will spend more time on trails closer to the trailhead, and thus the difficulty there is much less. The portions of A and B loop that are actually difficult are completely optional, and obvious, and give riders a chance to improve their skill before moving on to the harder trails. Observationally, the oldest of the new trails have already started to become skinnier due to the natural tendency for plant growth to encroach on open spaces. This is a fact that is often overlooked because the process takes a long time. Over time, even the new trails will become skinnier as they are more worn in. The less erosion issues there are in a trail, the more they maintain a singletrack feel. In the areas of the Roller Coaster that have severe erosion issues, those sections no longer maintain that feeling.All of the changes for the Back Nine and D Loop were detailed in the plan that was originally distributed a few years ago. Yes, the Back Nine trail that used to be there is gone. I personally will miss it, but I feel the D loop is exactly the sort of trail that was lacking in CRAMBA territory, and had been asked for the most. My goal as Chair is to provide an opportunity for every type of rider, and I believe that Stony Creek's updates will ultimately accomplish that. The GROM loop is short and has a lot of rider skill features that I feel make up for the removal of the Skills Park that was falling into disrepair.Loop C, that will consist of the existing Roller Coaster trail, and the Snake trail is NOT seeing this same type of "wipe clean and start over" work. The existing difficulty and terrain usage follows a lot of what would be created if it were to be created from new. Yes, there are some significant reroutes that are being done on the Coaster and Snake that are to avoid areas where the terrain could not simply be reshaped to fix perpetual erosion issues, and to enable a more cohesive looping trail. I believe the new trail will still have much of the same feel as the original when it is completed, worn in, and the plants have encroached.Some of the work on Loop C will be done that doesn't follow these original plans because of erosion problems that have gotten much worse from when the original plan was devised several years ago. These problems will continue to get worse if they receive no attention. The goal is to reduce the amount of necessary annual work to keep the trails in good shape, something that has overwhelmed CRAMBA's ability to accomplish due to the accelerating nature of erosion. Yes, there are many spots where the surface of the trail will become widened during the course of the work being completed, but it will not stay this way. If there are troublesome aspects of the trail once it has been completed, I am confident the Metropark will continue to listen and allow us to make corrections and repairs.Having ridden the Coaster last night, I can say without a doubt in my mind, that even before work has started, it is not the same trail it once was. Even compared to last year. New lines have been thoroughly worn in, and old lines I used to take are completely covered and gone. Lines to avoid rocks, and roots, and sandy areas are prevalent throughout the trail. There are lines that did not used to exist before the rocks and roots became uncovered from wear and erosion. The people I observed riding were mostly avoiding the rocks and roots, and following these less difficult lines that end up widening and changing the trail.As a member of CRAMBA's board, I am very grateful that the Metroparks have listened to our efforts to communicate requests and desires of what our membership has been asking for. As I'm now in my fourth year on the board, I know as well as anyone that there are some who will not be pleased by any of the changes. Your voices are not lost on me, and I wish that we were able to accommodate everyone. I remain hopeful and confident that once the entire project is completed, it will overall be a very positive change for the park, and our membership. That the Metroparks are seeing the mountain bike trails as infrastructure that should be improved and invested in is an enormous win for us all.There is a petition that is being circulated that runs counter to what I believe are the desires of the majority of the CRAMBA membership. I disagree with the premise of this petition, as it leaves out many of the critical details, and misrepresents the actual work being done on the trails. I feel it is not in the best interests of our membership, and our mountain biking community as a whole. If you have any specific questions or concerns, feel free to reach out to me directly. My Email is cramba@dark-fx.com.Thank you,Brian McPhersonCRAMBA Chair
More Trails at River Bends. Professionally Designed and Built!
This project is to develop an additional ~3 miles of bike-optimized natural surface single track trails within River Bends Park, on the west side of the Clinton River.
The Clinton River Area Mountain Bike Association, working with the Shelby Township Parks and Recreation Department, will hire TrailSense LLC, of Holly, MI to professionally design and build the trails in this project.
This professionally designed and built trail section will require significant fundraising efforts for our community and individuals. Our goal is to break ground on the project right after the ground thaws in early 2021, with completion by mid-summer. Of these additional 3 miles of trail, almost 2 miles will use the significant elevation on the ridge west of the river as an exciting, predominantly-downhill trail.
Completion of this project will bring River Bends to a total of over 11 miles of natural surface multi-use trails. We need your help to make this happen. Any amount will get us closer to our goal!
If you or your company would like to make a sizable donation and wish to avoid the processing fees (pay via check) contact us at riverbends@cramba.org and we will make the arrangements.
CRAMBA Massive Fall-Alt: Trail Challenge
Goodbye summer, Hello CRAMBA Fall Trail Challenge! CRAMBA is doing something a little different this year. We wouldn't have been able to hold the typical events that you enjoy so much so we came up with an Alternative! Sign up and Ride CRAMBA trails this Fall to get some CRAMBA swag! More details are posted on the CRAMBA Massive Fall-Alt: Trail Challenge event page.
2020 Addison Oaks Fall Classic is Cancelled
It is with a heavy heart that CRAMBA has decided to cancel the 2020 Addison Oaks Fall Classic mountain bike race, originally scheduled to be held on September 12th at Addison Oaks County Park in Leonard, MI.For over 11 years dozens of volunteers have spent hundreds of hours each year putting on the Fall Classic as a fundraiser to help CRAMBA pay for everything we do; from trail tools to winter grooming equipment, from insurance to pizza for volunteers at trail days, from signage to bridges. On a good year the event has raised over $8000, but on light attendance years -- such as 2019 -- this has been less than $2000.With COVID-19 and Stay Home, Stay Safe affecting spring and summer racing seasons, many promoters have moved their races to autumn. From mountain to gravel to cyclocross races, every autumn weekend in 2020 has multiple races to choose from; far more than in typical years. While the choice of races is great, there are only so many racers and this results in a smaller turnout per race than if they were spread out throughout the year. Fewer participants means less income, which is the primary reason why CRAMBA puts on the Fall Classic.More than just a fundraising race, the Addison Oaks Fall Classic is also a social event. It’s a time to race against friends, cheer others on, then share stories about the summer while sipping your favorite fizzy beverage. Unfortunately, right now it’s unclear how long we’ll be having to keep distance from each other, with the distinct possibility that large gatherings will still be prohibited come September.Springtime is when race planning seriously begins; signing contracts for timing and the race venue, setting up registration, soliciting sponsors, arranging food, ordering medals and number plates, and much more. By cancelling the race now we can save our volunteer’s time and avoid costs that come from having to back out of agreements and leave dated material unused.Today, at the end of April 2020, CRAMBA has around $48,000 in the bank. Our yearly expenses -- without special purchases -- are around $8000 and most of this has already been paid for 2020. Without the Fall Classic income CRAMBA will have no problems continuing as normal. Our work of building, maintaining, and advocating for trails will continue, and we have plenty of money available to spend on special projects.All of this added up -- the likelihood of minimal income, the costs of cancelling at a later date, and the lack of immediate need for fundraising -- has led us to cancel the 2020 Addison Oaks Fall Classic.We will continue planning our other events, including Massive Fallout and Trail Days, and will let you know as they are scheduled.Thank you for being safe on the trails; here’s to getting back to riding and working!See you out there (but from a safe distance),Your CRAMBA Board of Directors:Roger Class · Michael Green · John D Knight III · Ken Markiewicz · Brian McPhersonMike Reeves · Becky Padin · Marc Padin · Wade Robbins · Steve Vigneau
Announcing the Technical Features Program
In this year’s survey CRAMBA’s members said they want more man-made technical features along the trails. CRAMBA has the money to pay for the features, and we need volunteers like you to make it happen. To get more features along the trails, we are pleased to announce the Technical Features Program.Is there a place along one of our trails where you think a nice feature could go? Got an idea for a great new feature that you’d just love to build? This is your chance to make it a reality, and CRAMBA will pay for it.We are looking for members like you to come up with a feature and make it happen. First, you come up with the idea, put it in a proposal, and get it to CRAMBA for review. Next, CRAMBA gets approval from the land manager. Finally, you get to build it and ride!Currently we are looking for submissions for technical features at:
- Bald Mountain Recreation Area
- Columbus County Park
- Lapeer Oakdale Trails
- Pontiac Lake Recreation Area
- River Bends Park
Interested? Click here to read the full program information (PDF): CRAMBA Technical Features Program (2020).pdf
¡Ay CRAMBA It's Cold Out? - This Saturday, February 22nd
Wow, what an unseasonable winter we've had... But don't fret, this Saturday we're still hosting ¡Ay CRAMBA It's Cold Out! at River Bends Park, but we're moving the start up to 10am.Even though temperatures are forecasted to get well above freezing on Saturday we're still going to get together and celebrate Winter riding; whatever it brings. Even if the mountain bike trails aren't ridable, River Bends has almost five miles of paved trail, and the more adventurous can double that by taking a spin over to Dodge Park along the beautiful Clinton River.
Take the 2020 CRAMBA Trail User Survey
We need your help!Please join your fellow trail users in completing the CRAMBA 2020 Trail User Survey.We are looking for your feedback on CRAMBA, the trails you use, eBikes, asphalt pump tracks, dogs on trails, and more! Please share this survey with all your friends, as we want opinions from all types of trail users whether on foot, bike, or whateverClick Here: CRAMBA 2020 Trail User SurveyThank you for your help and support of CRAMBA; we'll see you on the trails!EDIT: As of February 10, 2020 the survey has been closed. Thank you for responding!